Comments on: More’s remarks http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/ A few wins, a few lessons. Never any losses. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:49:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6469 Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:48:11 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6469 He isn't really a blogger's nightmare. If some one does a lot of U-turns, it doesn't effect the bloggers in any way. If any thing, the reputation of the person doing many U-turns can be tarnished a bit. He has maintained his version of what happened in the selection committee meeting btw. He isn’t really a blogger’s nightmare. If some one does a lot of U-turns, it doesn’t effect the bloggers in any way. If any thing, the reputation of the person doing many U-turns can be tarnished a bit.

He has maintained his version of what happened in the selection committee meeting btw.

]]> by: Angshuman http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6461 Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:40:44 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6461 More must feature right at the top on any list of Bloggers' Nightmares - Over the past 1 year or so he has taken more U-turns than the average car. More must feature right at the top on any list of Bloggers’ Nightmares - Over the past 1 year or so he has taken more U-turns than the average car.

]]> by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6450 Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:10:06 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6450 Nirav: I see your point and it is an oft repeated point raised against scrapping zonal system. However, in Australia, it is not questioned which selector is from which state. It is because the selectors are credible - reinstates why the people chosen must have the right credentials for the job. Manish: Yeah we reach a consensus... Nirav: I see your point and it is an oft repeated point raised against scrapping zonal system. However, in Australia, it is not questioned which selector is from which state. It is because the selectors are credible - reinstates why the people chosen must have the right credentials for the job.

Manish: Yeah we reach a consensus…

]]> by: Manish http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6410 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:46:00 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6410 Pratyush: right, zonal system may lead to continued zonal biases. Make the selectors paid professionals, even if from the zone, and make them as well as zonal bodies accountable. Then, people can't be hired and fired at will, just like in any accountable organisation in the world. But I do see its a tricky issue, and the problem is we're only trying to scratch the surface. Pratyush: right, zonal system may lead to continued zonal biases. Make the selectors paid professionals, even if from the zone, and make them as well as zonal bodies accountable. Then, people can’t be hired and fired at will, just like in any accountable organisation in the world.

But I do see its a tricky issue, and the problem is we’re only trying to scratch the surface.

]]> by: Nirav http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6408 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:38:05 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6408 The apprehension that the board has had in removing the zonal system is the question, what if the selectors have a bias towards their zones even in a non-zonal setting? In that case, players from a particular zone might miss out. For example, if 2 of the 3 selectors are from Mumbai, then you might see a Romesh Powar or Wasim Jaffer always get in ahead of a Murali Kartik or Aakash Chopra. While something like this is a possibility, the solution lies in removing the nomination system for selectors and picking credible people in the role. However, a voting system does make sense, with a vote going to the coach/captain The apprehension that the board has had in removing the zonal system is the question, what if the selectors have a bias towards their zones even in a non-zonal setting? In that case, players from a particular zone might miss out. For example, if 2 of the 3 selectors are from Mumbai, then you might see a Romesh Powar or Wasim Jaffer always get in ahead of a Murali Kartik or Aakash Chopra.

While something like this is a possibility, the solution lies in removing the nomination system for selectors and picking credible people in the role. However, a voting system does make sense, with a vote going to the coach/captain

]]> by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6405 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:42:38 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6405 A zonal system or a system where scouts feed the selectors regarding specific zones are both fine - serving the same purpose of tracking more cricketers. However, the current zonal system's problem is that the zone itself chooses the selector and the selector can be removed if he doesn't get satisfactory amount of players through from that specific zone. It has to be an autonomous body and only then can it function effectively. A zonal system or a system where scouts feed the selectors regarding specific zones are both fine - serving the same purpose of tracking more cricketers.

However, the current zonal system’s problem is that the zone itself chooses the selector and the selector can be removed if he doesn’t get satisfactory amount of players through from that specific zone. It has to be an autonomous body and only then can it function effectively.

]]> by: Manish http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6381 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:00:30 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2006/09/13/mores-remarks/#comment-6381 The last I heard from BCCI on the selection committee changes was that they are looking for longer term for the committee...but the zonal system would be retained. Basically zonal system, or its replacement are not right or wrong in itself. They need to be supported by a proper structure which feeds the right information higher up in the chain. Then, either of these systems are ok. Otherwise, without the propoer structure in place (school, college, district, club, ranji level of selection structure with channel to feed up the info on eligible candidates) even the non-zonal structure of 3 selectors wont help. And yes, making them paid professionals is a good idea..even at zonal level. The last I heard from BCCI on the selection committee changes was that they are looking for longer term for the committee…but the zonal system would be retained.

Basically zonal system, or its replacement are not right or wrong in itself. They need to be supported by a proper structure which feeds the right information higher up in the chain. Then, either of these systems are ok.

Otherwise, without the propoer structure in place (school, college, district, club, ranji level of selection structure with channel to feed up the info on eligible candidates) even the non-zonal structure of 3 selectors wont help.

And yes, making them paid professionals is a good idea..even at zonal level.

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