Comments on: All time ODI XI http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/ A few wins, a few lessons. Never any losses. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:23:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17501 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:24:29 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17501 Glad you liked the team. I rate Ambrose very highly as well and it is very much reasonable for any one to select Akram in his All time ODI XI of course. The variations he offered, the control he had was mind boggling. Glad you liked the team. I rate Ambrose very highly as well and it is very much reasonable for any one to select Akram in his All time ODI XI of course. The variations he offered, the control he had was mind boggling.

]]> by: Angshu http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17462 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:00:41 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17462 Excellent team, mate. And though I have not watched many of these players in live matches I am tempted to go with it except one change: I am not too comfortable with dropping Akram out of a one day side for ANYONE - and that means I would like to drop one of the 'twin means' Curtly (who is THE greatest Test bowler I have seen i.e. since mid 80's) and Joel. Akram at his 90's best could be a Hadlee-like swinging menace or a Curtly-esque miser as the situation allowed him to be. Excellent team, mate. And though I have not watched many of these players in live matches I am tempted to go with it except one change: I am not too comfortable with dropping Akram out of a one day side for ANYONE - and that means I would like to drop one of the ‘twin means’ Curtly (who is THE greatest Test bowler I have seen i.e. since mid 80’s) and Joel. Akram at his 90’s best could be a Hadlee-like swinging menace or a Curtly-esque miser as the situation allowed him to be.

]]> by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17076 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:28:31 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17076 Fair enough mate. I knew you were not saying they should definitely be in the XI.. I was just asking your opinion.. :) Lara for all his brilliance does seem the weakest link in the middle order which means that if any one comes in, he would be the one who would go as things stand. Fair enough mate. I knew you were not saying they should definitely be in the XI.. I was just asking your opinion.. :) Lara for all his brilliance does seem the weakest link in the middle order which means that if any one comes in, he would be the one who would go as things stand.

]]> by: Geoff http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17074 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:11:49 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17074 I'm not saying Dennis Amiss should definitely play, or Greg Chappell, I just wanted to mention them. If I were to play Chappell, it would have to be at Lara's expense, genius as he is, because it's impossible to drop Richards or Ponting. If Amiss played, it could only be in place of Tendulkar, as Gilchrist is a wicket-keeper. And you can't drop Tendulkar. I’m not saying Dennis Amiss should definitely play, or Greg Chappell, I just wanted to mention them. If I were to play Chappell, it would have to be at Lara’s expense, genius as he is, because it’s impossible to drop Richards or Ponting. If Amiss played, it could only be in place of Tendulkar, as Gilchrist is a wicket-keeper. And you can’t drop Tendulkar.

]]> by: Pratyush http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17063 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:47:49 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17063 Hello Geoff.. Excellent pointers. Greg Chappell, considered by many a decent student of the game to be the finest Australian batsman ever after Bradman could definitely have adopted to the modern one day game and improved his strike rate as a result of it (75 in the era he played isn't bad as it is). Who he replace for you in an all time XI? Regarding Amiss, I am not that sure. His List A averages stood at just 35 - not too flash. Had he had even a List A average of say 45 in that era, I am sure he would have been talked about more... Kunal: Yes, Shaun Pollock could be very useful. I can't look past an Ambrose/Garner combination because they were so economical and there is Hadlee at 8. Pollock is no muck with the ball though and the economy of 3.7 is not bad at all in the era he has played. It is a case of what you want to give more priority but he could definitely come in for me on a pitch where more wickets are likely to fall. Good pick mate. England were a good side many years back but who could you have in an all time XI? Botham comes to mind immediately for instance but his ODI batting was not that great and his economy rate of 3.96 in the era he bowled isn't that impressive too. Hello Geoff.. Excellent pointers. Greg Chappell, considered by many a decent student of the game to be the finest Australian batsman ever after Bradman could definitely have adopted to the modern one day game and improved his strike rate as a result of it (75 in the era he played isn’t bad as it is). Who he replace for you in an all time XI?

Regarding Amiss, I am not that sure. His List A averages stood at just 35 - not too flash. Had he had even a List A average of say 45 in that era, I am sure he would have been talked about more…

Kunal: Yes, Shaun Pollock could be very useful. I can’t look past an Ambrose/Garner combination because they were so economical and there is Hadlee at 8. Pollock is no muck with the ball though and the economy of 3.7 is not bad at all in the era he has played. It is a case of what you want to give more priority but he could definitely come in for me on a pitch where more wickets are likely to fall. Good pick mate.

England were a good side many years back but who could you have in an all time XI? Botham comes to mind immediately for instance but his ODI batting was not that great and his economy rate of 3.96 in the era he bowled isn’t that impressive too.

]]> by: Kunal http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17040 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:54:42 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-17040 that would be an awesome side, but as you say the tail is very brittle - the last three batsmen would be sitting ducks for any good bowler.. I would like to replace Garner/Ambrose with Pollock, instead of McGrath - he brings in more depth with the bat... Surprisingly no player from England - after all they have reached the maximum number of finals in the World Cups.. Go back 10 years, and England used to have a good team that would be an awesome side, but as you say the tail is very brittle - the last three batsmen would be sitting ducks for any good bowler.. I would like to replace Garner/Ambrose with Pollock, instead of McGrath - he brings in more depth with the bat…

Surprisingly no player from England - after all they have reached the maximum number of finals in the World Cups.. Go back 10 years, and England used to have a good team

]]> by: Geoff http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-16988 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:14:11 +0000 http://www.sportolysis.com/2007/01/30/all-time-odi-xi/#comment-16988 I'd like to mention a couple of players who were excellent at the time ODIs were introduced, with records that would stand up even today, yet are barely mentioned in these discussions. One is English, the other Australian. You might guess the Australian: it's Greg Chappell. In 72 ODI innings he averaged over 40 at a strike-rate of over 75. He also took 72 wickets at 29, economy 4 (which was expensive for the time). An absolutely incredible player. The Englishman? Dennis Amiss. OK, he only played 18 ODIs, but he scored the first and second century. In the five times he passed fifty, he only once failed to make a ton. His strike-rate was also very respectable, while his average runs per innings is higher than anyone, yes anyone, on the <a href="http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/ODIS/BATTING/ODI_BAT_HIGHEST_AVS.html" rel="nofollow">all-time</a> averages list. I’d like to mention a couple of players who were excellent at the time ODIs were introduced, with records that would stand up even today, yet are barely mentioned in these discussions. One is English, the other Australian.

You might guess the Australian: it’s Greg Chappell. In 72 ODI innings he averaged over 40 at a strike-rate of over 75. He also took 72 wickets at 29, economy 4 (which was expensive for the time). An absolutely incredible player.

The Englishman? Dennis Amiss. OK, he only played 18 ODIs, but he scored the first and second century. In the five times he passed fifty, he only once failed to make a ton. His strike-rate was also very respectable, while his average runs per innings is higher than anyone, yes anyone, on the all-time averages list.

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